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	<title>Comments on: Butzel Long report on Dickinson murder in; BoR Chair Sidlik: &#8220;This University got it wrong.  What happened was unacceptable.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Calihan</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-9140</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Calihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school did no right in this matter.

Do not let the school off the hook.

The family has been put through hell.

If the charges stick and DNA matchs the accused he should be put to death now.

I hope lawyers, special interest groups, media hungry low lifes like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the new and improved Black Panthers dont come to help this case.  I am sick of seeing criminal rights come ahead of victims. 

The case has been low profile wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school did no right in this matter.</p>
<p>Do not let the school off the hook.</p>
<p>The family has been put through hell.</p>
<p>If the charges stick and DNA matchs the accused he should be put to death now.</p>
<p>I hope lawyers, special interest groups, media hungry low lifes like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the new and improved Black Panthers dont come to help this case.  I am sick of seeing criminal rights come ahead of victims. </p>
<p>The case has been low profile wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Dstudent</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-9038</link>
		<dc:creator>Dstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since starting at EMU last Fall, I have had to cross picket lines, heard of regents resigning, and witnessed the sad handling of a fellow students death. Many brick and morter improvements need to be followed with some leadership improvements to heal the black eyes this University is pilling up.  Progress has got to be more than PR! I want to be safe, receive a quality education, and be proud of the school I attend. I&#039;m am encourage by the actions of the regents. There is a lot of work to do and I believe I&#039;m not alone in saying were counting on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since starting at EMU last Fall, I have had to cross picket lines, heard of regents resigning, and witnessed the sad handling of a fellow students death. Many brick and morter improvements need to be followed with some leadership improvements to heal the black eyes this University is pilling up.  Progress has got to be more than PR! I want to be safe, receive a quality education, and be proud of the school I attend. I&#8217;m am encourage by the actions of the regents. There is a lot of work to do and I believe I&#8217;m not alone in saying were counting on you.</p>
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		<title>By: sitedad</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8827</link>
		<dc:creator>sitedad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John (of http://www.newsnet14.com/), I deleted your post because it violated what I see as one of &quot;Da Rules&quot; in that your post was racist, crude, and insensitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John (of <a href="http://www.newsnet14.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsnet14.com/</a>), I deleted your post because it violated what I see as one of &#8220;Da Rules&#8221; in that your post was racist, crude, and insensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff MacMillan</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff MacMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also it was made pretty clear that Vick and the rest of them did not keep Fallon properly informed. &quot;

It is the duty of a University President to GET INFORMED, not to BE INFORMED.

I swear it.  Eastern Michigan University would be better off with ME as University President and I do not even have a Master&#039;s Degree yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also it was made pretty clear that Vick and the rest of them did not keep Fallon properly informed. &#8221;</p>
<p>It is the duty of a University President to GET INFORMED, not to BE INFORMED.</p>
<p>I swear it.  Eastern Michigan University would be better off with ME as University President and I do not even have a Master&#8217;s Degree yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff MacMillan</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8772</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff MacMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire report is a dishonest, CYA for President John Fallon.

In fact, as the news pointed out, they wouldn&#039;t even COMMENT on President John Fallon during the meeting.

Open process?  Not hardly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire report is a dishonest, CYA for President John Fallon.</p>
<p>In fact, as the news pointed out, they wouldn&#8217;t even COMMENT on President John Fallon during the meeting.</p>
<p>Open process?  Not hardly.</p>
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		<title>By: media observer</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8695</link>
		<dc:creator>media observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we supposed to blindly accept the idea that Fallon knew nothing about any of this?
If he didn&#039;t know, WHY NOT?   Why did he not make it clear that he wanted to be informed?  The rest of us were asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we supposed to blindly accept the idea that Fallon knew nothing about any of this?<br />
If he didn&#8217;t know, WHY NOT?   Why did he not make it clear that he wanted to be informed?  The rest of us were asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8689</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t received an e-mail about it either, Mike. I thought maybe it was just problems with the emich server, but maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t received an e-mail about it either, Mike. I thought maybe it was just problems with the emich server, but maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Garrison</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8687</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never actually received an e-mail about the report being released. Did any other students receive an e-mail, or did the e-mail only go out to faculty/staff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never actually received an e-mail about the report being released. Did any other students receive an e-mail, or did the e-mail only go out to faculty/staff?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pierce</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8682</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be a point in time where we separate &#039;well he is a nice guy&#039; from holding people accountable for their actions and leadership failures.

Until we do that, we shouldn&#039;t be surprised at what we get from our elected officials or senior adminstrators.

 - Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be a point in time where we separate &#8216;well he is a nice guy&#8217; from holding people accountable for their actions and leadership failures.</p>
<p>Until we do that, we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised at what we get from our elected officials or senior adminstrators.</p>
<p> &#8211; Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Higbee</title>
		<link>http://emutalk.org/2007/06/butzel-long-report-on-dickinson-murder-in-bor-chair-sidlik-this-university-got-it-wrong-what-happened-was-unacceptable/comment-page-1/#comment-8671</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Higbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Mr. Vick shredded a document, and somehow the public relations office was induced to issue a false statement.  Those who since Feb. have doubted that a cover up was underway should now reflect on the real quality of (mis)leadership that runs EMU.

One thing I disagree with BOR Chair Sidlick on:  He said that &quot;The University got this wrong.&quot;  The wrongs committed were by a few elite EMU officials, and they are wrongs that are unforgivable and deeply harmful to EMU.  They are also wrongs that it is unimaginable that EMU people from outside the Welch Hall crowd and their immediate subordinates would have undertaken.  To lie about the cause of death of a student? 

On the very good question some of you have raised about Where was the University Counsel in all this?, it&#039;s clear he was  deeply complicit in the unethical conduct and incompetence that produced the Hill Hall cover up.

As University Counsel, Ken McKanders is supposed to ensure that EMU follow all relevant laws. He&#039;s paid to do that.  He has, over the years, done nothing substantive to ensure that EMU follow the requirements of the Clery Act.  He has not taken steps to ensure honesty in the conduct of EMU administrative business. And when the Laura Dickinson case cover up first hit the press, he stated to a reporter that EMU had disclosed all the information about the case it could.    Mr. McKanders is a very nice person, but he has been a very poor university counsel, as he fails to distinguish between the University&#039;s interests and the interests of his fellow Welch Hall residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Mr. Vick shredded a document, and somehow the public relations office was induced to issue a false statement.  Those who since Feb. have doubted that a cover up was underway should now reflect on the real quality of (mis)leadership that runs EMU.</p>
<p>One thing I disagree with BOR Chair Sidlick on:  He said that &#8220;The University got this wrong.&#8221;  The wrongs committed were by a few elite EMU officials, and they are wrongs that are unforgivable and deeply harmful to EMU.  They are also wrongs that it is unimaginable that EMU people from outside the Welch Hall crowd and their immediate subordinates would have undertaken.  To lie about the cause of death of a student? </p>
<p>On the very good question some of you have raised about Where was the University Counsel in all this?, it&#8217;s clear he was  deeply complicit in the unethical conduct and incompetence that produced the Hill Hall cover up.</p>
<p>As University Counsel, Ken McKanders is supposed to ensure that EMU follow all relevant laws. He&#8217;s paid to do that.  He has, over the years, done nothing substantive to ensure that EMU follow the requirements of the Clery Act.  He has not taken steps to ensure honesty in the conduct of EMU administrative business. And when the Laura Dickinson case cover up first hit the press, he stated to a reporter that EMU had disclosed all the information about the case it could.    Mr. McKanders is a very nice person, but he has been a very poor university counsel, as he fails to distinguish between the University&#8217;s interests and the interests of his fellow Welch Hall residents.</p>
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