Comments on: Totally unconfirmed rumor: Fallon on Larry King tonight?

By: Mark Higbee

Mark Higbee — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:11:12 +0000

Five days ago, Shelley Wilson made a comment here that mentioned me by name, implying that one of my problems is that i rarely venture out of my classroom or office, and that I don’t know EMU well.

I can tell that Ms. Wilson knows Jim Vick perosnally and respects him greatly. I know him personally, but I know he failed the tests of leadership: truth telling. So did Fallon. Both deserved to be fired. I have been criticized for lots of things, but never before, Ms. Wilson, for allegedly keeping too close to my classroom and office. I could be faulted for making all of EMU too much of my business — I think i know this campus and its people as well as anyone here does.

John Fallon harmed his already terrible reputation by appearing on King’s show. Jim Vick harmed himself a few weeks ago with the interview that he gave a local TV station. Neither of these interviews show any regard for the best interests of EMU.

If you love an institution, it is your duty to work to improve it. Pretending that serious problems don’t exist is not loving behavior. It is the habit of the enabler of bad and destructive practices. It is contrary to the values of an academic institution, where learning and truth must be our goals.

By: egpenet

egpenet — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:56:28 +0000

During the break:

JFF: “See, Larry, I think the sstaf back there were hopingg t catch this guy, OJ. But …”
LK: “O.J.?”
JF:: “Yes, O.J. … did I say, O.J.? I meant Orrangee, ah, O.T., yes. I think the staff was hoping to nail him, but the iinvestigation dragged on too long, making look like a cover up.”
LK: “And you were on vacation?”
JF: “”I am a President! I’m not an investigator. Why should I interrupt a wonderful vacation to come back and get all mucked up in a nasty dirty mess, when there are people to handle nasty dirty messes back at the school?”
LK: “Good thinking. Why get YOUR hands dirty?”
JF:: “Who was there to console? Hardly any students on campus too be alarmed about. Our neighbors weren’t worried. Just another nasty statistic to be logged in Cindy’s little books somewhere.”
LK: “Right.”

Three, two one.

Blah, blahh, blahhh.

By: egpenet

egpenet — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:33:21 +0000

JF: “You’re just going to ask a few softball questions, right, Larry?”
LK: “Oh, yah. No details, Mr. Fallon.”
JF: “Doctor, please, Larry. And my wife, it’s Mrs. Doctor, as well, OK?”
LK: “Sure, sure. Doctor, doctor, got it.”

Three, two, one …

LK: ” Yip-sa-lanty, Michigan. WWe all heard and reead about the tragic murder of …”
blah, blahh, bblahhh

By: Miss Catie

Miss Catie — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:36:27 +0000

Yes, Shelly, clearly I adore John Fallon. I usually use words like “ridiculous” “pathetic” and “self-absorbed” to describe people I like. You’re a very thorough generalizer.

By: Mike Garrison

Mike Garrison — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:28:47 +0000

I’ve met Vick, I think he’s a good guy and that he did a lot of great things for the university. However, just because you have a history of being a good guy and doing good things doesn’t mean you don’t make mistakes, make wrong decisions, or do something you think is in the best interest when it’s not. It’s a fallacy to draw that type of conclusion. After all, we are human beings. We make mistakes and do these things. When we make those mistakes, we must pay the consequences and accept what is given as our punishment.. ruining a friendship, losing your job, getting a ticket, etc.

No offense, but you are pouncing on people for saying they feel Vick was covering this up.. yet in your attacks you are doing the exact same thing..

By: Alum

Alum — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:21:44 +0000

Your right – Faupel has no chance! She has goofed up quite a few cases in Washtenaw County.

Shelley:

I’m sure that Jim did nothing intentional to hurt anyone, but people who are totally cold to the University and don’t know anything about it, or the people who work at EMU, view Jim Vick as cold and aloof on television when he was interviewed. I like him, but he sure needs someone to tell him how to show more remorse and not to seem so interested in himself. A student was murdered and now it’s only about law suits, firings, trips, destroyed careers, money, greed. etc. It’s also time to move on from this subject. Let Fallon and company make fools of themselves in circuit court.

An interesting tid bit – Cindy Hall is being considered as a consultant in Bellville for law enforcement/police.

By: Shelley Wilson

Shelley Wilson — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:39:16 +0000

In case anyone is interested, Jim Vick is visiting his daughter in Japan. That is likely why Lary King’s calls were not returned – whatever. You people (like your boy Fallon) are so out for Vick’s blood – let me ask you this: if so many of you don’t actually KNOW Jim (and where the hell have you been that you don’t know him?), how can you be so certain that he would be so stupid and callous as to try and “cover up” a murder? Don’t you recognize your own free-floating-cynicism? Don’t you realize how disconnected you are from this institution and it’s people? I hope each of you will stop to think long and HARD about what YOUR contribution will be to the healing of this University. Don’t be mislead by the narrow-mindedness of those who never venture outside of their classrooms or offices, yet paint grand pictures of corruption and, whatever… The fact is that IF you – especialy anyone who works here – don’t know the players in this “story” well enough to make a call, then shame on you. EMU is small enough that if you really give a s**t, you know flolks; you know what’s REALLY going on. Kirk, you know better (but i still love you, my little Mac-weenie) but I know you like to vent. Higbee, so do you – or at least you ought to. Abby,where the hell did you even come from? I’ve never seen you anywhere but on this site, but you umake your self out to be quite the expert. Get in touch with your HUMANITY people!

BTW: contrary to last night’s comments, I don’t think Fallon as the balls to sue Vick. His wife and her partners are some of the the toughest lawyers around. And – believe it or not – the most upright and ethical. I speak as a former client who wanted to play dirty, but won anyway

—Shelley

By: Eagle Talon

Eagle Talon — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:31:56 +0000

You can also just write a ballot proposal and get 300,000 signatures and hope for a good election. That’s about the only way it will probably happen.

By: Miss Catie

Miss Catie — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:47:34 +0000

I agree with sitedad. Fallon’s defense is ridiculous. I know he’s supposedly doing this to “clear his name” but what he’s really doing is making himself look pathetic and self-absorbed. The crime here was not him or even Hall or Vick losing their jobs; the crime was that a women was murdered. Fallon seems to have forgotten that in his quest to restore his reputation.

By: Michael Ferens

Michael Ferens — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:45:31 +0000

I can tell, all posters to this board our genuine concerned and supportive members of the EMU community. This is truly appreciated.

I point out to those who continue to blame Fallon. Remember, the Regents (Appointed by Engler or Granholm, Republican or Dem) chose the last three Presidents. Under these presidents, there have been multiple public embarrassments.

Do we see a pattern here? Firing a president is a band-aid on the leaking pipe.

Yes, it is in the state Constitution for the governor to appoint Regents. Well then, change the Constitution! UM, MSU and Wayne State vote in their regents. How did they do it? Write to your state senator and governor and demand changes.