I have a question. How come ICT gets to go against university policy (which is wrong IMO) on domain names, viz printing.emich.edu and labstat.emich.edu, while my department grovels and uses the stupid emich.edu/compsci? What is up with this? (see post http://emutalk.org/?p=592)
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I’m not entirely sure if ICT has a coherent policy on this. Or at least not a coherent policy against this. For example, my office computer is krause.emich.edu, we have writing.emich.edu, and then in your own department Susan, you’ve got aginghippie.emich.edu So I would assume that if y’all wanted to create a server at compsci.emich.edu, you could.
Where is the University Policy on domain names that you speak of?
Other CAS departments have domain names of that type. See: http://chemistry.emich.edu/ and http://physics.emich.edu/
See http://www.emich.edu/web_standards_guide/official_sites.html#naming
Also http://www.emich.edu/web_standards_guide/organize.html#domain
And, when a few years ago, compsci was booted off of compsci.acad.emich.edu (I think it was that), booted off with no forwarding BTW (which is really, really unprofessional and sloppy, plus stupid-bad PR), we were told that we could NOT have compsci.emich.edu. I know, because I pressed the point with my department head and faculty. “It is against university policy.”
it’s a little too late to be useful, but… as far as the stupid-bad move of not forwarding compsci.acad goes, i don’t think ICT was really the sloppy one there. compsci.acad still points to a computer science IP address, so the forwarding is under comp sci’s control. you could forward it right now if you wanted.
as for the hostname / local-vs-central thing, i can understand both sides of the fence. comp sci either wants the prestige (?) of having their own hostname or wants to run their own server (i can certainly understand that), and the web standards people want all departments to appear under one name. there’s been talk for a long time of a content management system that – provided pages are hosted in one place – would prevent non-standard looking pages like chemistry.emich.edu. sure, it’s not a poorly laid-out page, but it certainly doesn’t look like the rest of http://www.emich. i for one think that looks bad. i hate it when i get forwarded to another university’s server by their primary web page. this goes for UofM too.
anyway, i think this argument probably happens at every college when the web people try to make a standard face to the university.
Interesting, iihs, and I thank you for the info.
Interesting that I was so badly misinformed about the compsci.acad -> emich.edu/compsci transfer years ago. I know I asked about making the move transparent to outsiders and was told we had to just suck it up (in so many words). Yeah, and it is a little late, but I just asked the powers-that-be in my department to fix this. I’ll have to see what they can actually do.
Also, remember that about the same time (+/- a couple years), we all had to change all our email box from somebody @ online.emich.edu to somebody_else @ emich.edu. I didn’t complain about that then, but it struck me as crazy that that change couldn’t have been made transparent to outsiders as well. Why couldn’t email be automatically delivered to a different mailbox via a few lines of script, a small database of old email/new email, and a pointer in an IP table somewhere; or something anyway.
I freely confess that I know little about the administering of Internet systems. I had to cut something out; sysadmining and biologically inspired AI systems are two big areas that are cast to the outer darkness for me, pretty much without guilt.
Outside of EMU, most university departments have a very different look to their webpage than their university’s webpages. I think the attempt to standardize down to department home pages at EMU is the oddity.
Speaking as a total non-tech person, but as someone who goes to lots and lots of university web pages outside of EMU, I have to agree with Prof. Haynes that it appears that EMU’s attempt to standardize department level home pages is the oddity. I also
suspect that this odd homogenization effort has slowed down the development of improved home pages for some departments.