I don’t think that would have been enough for a president to say “well, in that case”..

Now that UM has made the bold step forward one can only wonder how much longer until EMU does it..

It’s sad to me really, when we had a chance to be one of the first, we dropped the ball and now we will be one of the last …

At some point, we need to do what’s right for EMU and not WAIT for peer institutions to do it first..

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I would expect a member of EMU faculty to set a better example

EOM

And Kirk, show me someone who is touting the success of a smoking policy on their CV in an effort to get an administrative job and I will show you someone who does not advance in her or his career.

Clearly, smoking policies are a hot-button issue. The science behind second-hand smoke is very real, which is at least one way in which smoking crosses over from “doing something bad to myself” into “doing something that is bad for others.” And it is very easy for me to imagine someone having an allergic reaction to cigarette smoke. I have allergy-induced asthma (mostly pollen and ragweed types of things, and my asthma is mild– nothing that allergy meds can’t take care of), and I can tell you that there are lots of things that don’t cause reactions in “normal” people that cause reactions in people with allergies. When certain things are in bloom, I am not a happy camper even with meds. And asthma can be pretty scary. So, while the smoke outside Pray-Harrold is nothing that will set me off personally, I’m not willing to dismiss it as a health threat to others out of hand.

Besides all that, I’m a former smoker– gave it up 15 or more years ago– and we are the worst kinds anti-smoking kinds of people. I think it is INSANE that smoking is still legal in restaurants and bars in this state, and would cheerfully support a complete ban of smoking on campus. But short of that, I see nothing wrong with actually enforcing the policy we have about not smoking near the doors of buildings.

And if punishment for posting “unapproved” flyers related to University business will be meted out, then hopefully, all parties (e.g., Department Heads posting unapproved signs for the latest class that is dragging in enrollment, or a Study Abroad program) will be dealt with. Not to mention the barrage of non-university sanctioned events.

See the difference?

“In any context where intellect is more important than passion, an ad hominem argument is laughable. Here’s the ad hominem from the comments above: “I would expect a member of EMU faculty to set a better example ….”

So, here’s another example:
“disgruntled, you have some spare time on your hands. must be nice.”

“However, how often does the police report just record what the witness said — pretty much always unless there is contradictory physical evidence. ”

Did you have a conversation with the responding officers, or the two passers-by who assisted and witnessed the incident, who could still smell the cigarette smoke? What about the EMTs who responded? No, your life experience apparently counts for more than the evidence since you are so quick to make baseless accusations of “incredulity.” Another element of critical thinking – evidence!

But thanks for educating those of us who don’t know an ad hominem from a hyperbole in the ground.